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Fun fact: "The Tragedy Of the Commons" is a hoax created by the white nationalist Garrett Hardin to justify stealing land from colonized people and moving it from collective ownership, "rescuing" it from the inevitable tragedy by putting it in the hands of a private owner, who will care for it properly, thanks to "rational self-interest":

https://pluralistic.net/2023/05/04/analytical-democratic-theory/#epistocratic-delusions

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A lonely mud-brick well in a brown desert. It has been modified to add a 'caganar' - a traditional Spanish figure of a man crouching down and defecating - perched on the edge of the well. The caganar's head has been replaced with the menacing red eye of HAL9000 from Kubrick's '2001: A Space Odyssey.' The sky behind this scene has been blended with a 'code waterfall' effect as seen in the credit sequences of the Wachowskis' 'Matrix' movies.

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If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:

https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/09/shitting-in-the-well/#advon

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If there's one thing we know about billionaire capital owners is that they *never* behave like selfish a$$holes
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Cory Doctorowudostępnił to.

Thanks! I was looking for this very essay the other day and my bookmarks betrayed me!

Cory Doctorowudostępnił to.

That's fascinating thanks for sharing! I've predominantly used/heard Tragedy of the Commons in reference to unregulated capitalist stuff, or social behavior.

Really interesting to learn it has a very different philosophical root!
@mynameistillian And things like this will keep happening, and happening, and happening, with every new tech in ways we cannot foresee right now, until capitalism is either well and truly crippled or, preferably, ended outright.

(btw @nyrath might want to see)
I learned about the tragedy of the commons in economics classes at university. Strangely enough, none of these neoliberal fuckers said anything about the background and alternatives.

I`m pretty sure some economics departments are more ideologically blind/stuck, than most religious institutions.

Thanks Cory for expanding my horizon!

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When I first learned this "fun fact" I was truly shocked and assumed it was exaggerated or wrong. It's not.

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I love this coining of “economism” for the way it connotes religious belief in the tenets of economics. I’d like to read the essay that ties economism to extractive capitalism.

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#TranslatedFromTheRepublican

"People can't manage themselves or their assets responsibly, & that's why someone else needs to take on the burden of controlling it"

Control of the internet is required to prevent its use by the commoners, & a shareholding elite needs to take it in hand. Supposedly

What's odd is how the same self-serving arguments are used to justify colonialism & wars of conquest

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man's_Burden

And misogyny & reproductive care.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/nov/13/the-female-problem-male-bias-in-medical-trials
even more fantastic that it's rather easy to take a world where it's merely a hoax and turn it into one where it's a truth, self-fulfilling prophecy-style. Given you have some power and wealth at your disposal.
@RuthMalan Wow that graphic is … making a point (!)
The biggest "commons" I know of is the ocean, and boy do I feel there is a tragedy there. If the ocean can be maintained by either way, to me that way has demonstrated its viability.
Its kind of dumb that ppl still defend tragedy of the commons, and I used to but that changed since I've seen more upkeep coming in publicly owned spaces as opposed to privately owned ones. The thing that gets left out is the fact that private property can and often times will be left in disrepair because the only "rational self interest" the owner has is in money. Key example being landlords leaving their tenants home in disrepair and kicking the tenant out if they repair the problems themselves. The landlord could often times afford to call a contractor to fix the place, but won't because that would cost money and eat away at profits, and the tenant likely wouldn't have enough money to sue, yes u can sue of ur kicked out for calling a contractor to fix a problem u told the landlord about if the landlord doesn't do anything about it for a set period of time.
@kapy
A good example is the free candy: if you put out a bowl of candy with a sign saying "Free Candy!", everyone will take one piece.

If you put out the bowl and a money jar with "Candy, only 5 cents each" someone will plop a 20 in the jar and take all the candy.
@kapy as a Project Manager and systems guy I love how you summed this up. Local people, local resources, issues escalate less, system is more sustainable.
One reason I found this a bit confusing is that Ostrom's views have been fairly orthodox in poli sci for 20+ years. And because common goods really are a form of market failure, and it's important not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I worry that people who read only the first half might incorrectly view the entire exercise as illegitimate, when the real problem is that racists used common goods as an excuse to grift in the past.

Common goods are why the EPA exists.
I only heard about this Tragedy of the Commons just-so-story a few years ago. What I learned in high school in the UK was the historical reality of the Enclosure Acts in England. The landowning ruling class passed laws to steal land from the common folk (who couldn't vote or sit in Parliament) in order to profit from the lucrative wool industry.