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This is why Google/Apple maps will always be ahead; any company that relies on OSM for navigation will never catch up



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After fighting the user interface, both here and after installing JOSM on my system, I’m inclined to just forget about OSM for now. Something needs to radically change if the local contributions are of any value here. I simply do not have the time to attempt to master a very broken u.i.

I understand the concern for those who use a language other than English and making a translators job more difficult, but this suffocates the ability to use colloquial terminology particularly here in Australia, words that may be accurately descriptive in the USA or UK may have a totally different meaning here in some circumstances and this degrades its usefulness to ordinary users and for contributors it makes finding the appropriate tag for an edit extremely difficult. Yes we speak English and watch television created in the US and UK, so we kind of understand foreign meanings but that doesn’t mean we are prepared to give up our local descriptions and adopt different spellings and meanings, just like we are not prepared to change to driving on the “right side of the road”. OSM will never reach wide acceptability here in Australia unless more people are prepared to contribute and without radical changes to the usability of the editing interfaces, few people will bother to contribute. My first impressions are that design by committee has produced a fundamentally broken product. The only way OSM can compete with mega entities like Google or to some degree Apple who do use OSM for a some of their content, is to enlist more local contributors and allow more local input into administration of the community, at the moment OSM is very US or UK centric. Both Google and Apple have user contribution ability built in to their apps and it makes their product much more usable for their users. I hate to see just two companies dominate in the product space and I had hoped that OSM had the potential to compete but after attempting to make a useful contribution the edit interfaces have dashed that hope. I have extensive knowledge of the Barossa Valley, Northern Adelaide and Riverland, I could have made some valuable contributions but I don’t have time to waste on broken editing tools that require tertiary understanding to use properly. language=en-AU location: Gawler, South Australia




Preparations


2023 01-25: Latitude 50.850347519055674 Longitude 4.375579829793424

Underway of preparing for the trip, and making sure I have everything and dealt with the commitments before leaving. I am looking forward, perhaps particularly to Bulgaria and Greece but also to Germany, Prague, Budapest, and Transylvania. We will see how long I travel. Maybe would be nice to continue somewhere and return in late April. Maybe the Nordics or Turkey and Georgia. We’ll see! I think I should maybe slow things down a little while sticking to the plan, not be overambitious, and enjoy. Cross-country skiing around Kolasin would indeed be something realiseable. Hope to get two weeks after all and will insist on Belgrade with the boys.




So it’s been 7 years since she got taken. It’s been that long I feel helpless. I really hope I can be there for her. I just want to protect her. My baby’s. I miss you. I miss who I was when I was your mother. I need to make this right.


I just thought I’d update my diary and give a shout for my trusty GT-31. Every few years I revive it and take it out for some data logging. This year I took it around the new Waterbeach development near Cambridge, UK. It worked perfectly. This is an amazing piece of kit.

One slight let-down was discovering that GPSBabel seems to have dropped support for the GT-31’s native SBP format. I thought that might be the end of my OSM career, but then luckily I found that I can still run the old NaviSys software on Windows 11. I can’t connect to the GT-31 over USB any more (why not?) but I can load the SBP file from the SD card and convert it to GPX. I can then drop the GPX file straight into OSM’s iD editor. Such great software!










Dear Diary,

Today marked a significant milestone in my exploration of the world—my first mapping activity. Armed with my trusty GPS device, a sense of curiosity, and a desire for adventure, I set out to document the landscape around me.

The morning air was crisp, and the sun cast a warm glow as I embarked on this new journey. Armed with the tools of modern exploration, I navigated through familiar streets and ventured into areas I had yet to discover.

As I walked, I marked waypoints at interesting locations, capturing the essence of each spot. The quaint coffee shop on the corner, the hidden park with its serene ambiance, and the bustling market—all found their place in my digital map.

Creating routes added a sense of purpose to my exploration. I followed winding paths, capturing the intricate network of streets and alleys. It felt like I was leaving a digital trail of breadcrumbs, each waypoint telling a story of the places I visited.

The highlight of my mapping adventure was recording a track of my entire journey. It was fascinating to see the intricate pattern that emerged—a visual representation of my exploration. The twists and turns, the pauses at various landmarks, all etched into the digital canvas of my mapping application.

This activity not only satisfied my curiosity but also ignited a newfound appreciation for the art of mapping. Each point on the map now holds memories, and the routes tell tales of the paths I’ve taken.

As I conclude this diary entry, I can’t help but feel a sense of accomplishment. My first mapping activity opened a door to a world of discovery, and I’m eager to continue exploring and mapping the beauty that surrounds me.

Until the next adventure, makilagi ed





پاسداران، بهستان هشتم، ساختمان آبتین

OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.




I have noticed that ÖPNVKarte is not being updated since August 22 2023. Does anybody have any info about why it is not being updated


I recently had the privilege of attending the State of the Map Africa 2023 conference in Yaoundé, Cameroon. The event, focused on “Open Mapping as a Support Tool for Local Development in Africa,” provided a platform for diverse perspectives and insightful discussions over three engaging days. Representing YouthMappers from Tanzania and GeoTE-Tanzania, I actively participated in various sessions, sharing experiences and insights on harnessing open mapping for community betterment.

Mapping Trees for Climate Change Resilience. In my first session, I delved into the critical role of open mapping tools like OpenDataKit in mapping trees for climate change resilience. The discussion highlighted practical approaches to leverage these tools, emphasizing the importance of mapping initiatives in building climate-resilient communities. The power of collaborative mapping became evident as we explored strategies to enhance environmental sustainability through open mapping.

Gender Inclusion in OSM Africa. The second session focused on gender inclusion within the OpenStreetMap (OSM) community in Africa. In a lively panel discussion, we explored avenues to improve gender representation and participation. It was inspiring to share ideas with fellow panelists and conference participants, brainstorming on practical steps to foster a more inclusive OSM environment for everyone.

Building Sustainable Open Mapping Communities Across Africa. The final panel discussion, led by Mr. Innocent Maholi from OpenMap Development Tanzania, delved into the theme of building sustainable open mapping communities across Africa. Joined by panelists Ezekiel Kiariro, Nathalie Sidibe, and Severin Menard, we exchanged insights on strategies to create enduring mapping communities. Our discourse covered topics ranging from community engagement to resource mobilization, leaving us with a roadmap for nurturing vibrant and sustainable mapping ecosystems.

Beyond Sessions: Connecting with YouthMappers. Beyond the formal sessions, the conference provided a unique opportunity to connect with fellow YouthMappers from different countries. We shared success stories, learned from each other’s experiences, and forged connections that extend beyond the conference walls. These interactions underscored the strength of a united mapping community and the potential for positive change through collaborative efforts.

Acknowledgments. I extend my heartfelt gratitude to the organizers of the State of the Map Africa 2023, the supporters, donors, and all the participants who contributed to the success of the conference whether in person or virtually. Your collective support and active engagement made this conference a vibrant hub of knowledge sharing and collaboration. As I reflect on the valuable insights gained and connections made, I am inspired to continue contributing to the open mapping movement. State of the Map Africa 2023 was not just a conference; it was a catalyst for positive change, empowering us to use open mapping as a catalyst for local development in Africa. I look forward to carrying these experiences forward and collaborating with the global mapping community to create a more inclusive, sustainable, and impactful future.




In the past, as I’ve traveled, I’ve found it pretty easy to find a library when I need one. I have offline maps from OpenAndroMaps that I use with OruxMaps. I open it to my search area and ask it where the libraries are and it gives me a few. Suddenly this is failing. Perhaps it was already failing and I wasn’t finding as many as are there.

The first failure was in Etna, California. OSM directed me to a parking lot with no library around it. Luckily, I had signal that worked and could find an address 1.5 blocks away. This mark got moved when I got home.

The second failure was in Ely, Nevada. This is the county seat. There is no way they don’t have a library. My map said no. Again, I had some signal and was able to find an address. It’s a big building next to the courthouse, well lit and full of books and has excellent internet. Now that I’ve located it on OSM, I found it was marked as a post office. There’s one post office in Ely and it’s off on the east edge of town. USPS doesn’t know about this one. It’s all better now. The White Pine County Library lives!

The third failure was in Hawthorne, Nevada. This was a lesser failure. When I was lazy and just searched for something with the word “library”, I got nothing. But when wandered through the menus to search the type, I got it. It just needed to be named. Now it is the Mineral County Library.

Before, I had suspected that someone had gone through and systematically added libraries. Maybe they have and just haven’t gotten to Nevada and northern California. In Utah, I was even able to find out about the tiny library in Bluff, housed in the old jail! It’s so small it was only open 2 days a week for a few hours. At that time, it was one of the only libraries that left the internet on while closed. (I’m glad a lot more do this now. Is there a tag for that?)

Anyway, libraries, very important mapping and there’s some still in need!




Inflated Tea


So I am just learning Open Street Maps, but after the Massive Inflation that has come along, leaving coffee and tea prices at a gobsmacking 35-40 krona (3-4 Euro), I have set about trying to map cheaper spots in my home city of Stockholm. Here is a list, where Coffee and/or Tea is 15:- - 20:-. My first attempt did not turn up in searches - I guess the “Description” field doesn’t work for that.

Since toilets often cost 5:- 10:- kronor in Stockholm – a truely foul practice! – I have included information in this list as to which offer them for Free. There are several Panini Internazionales that do not have seating. I have only listed places where you can Sit here …

Cheap Cafes to Catalog So Far


Panini Internazionale near Östermalmstorg (has toilet!)

Panini Internazionale in Västermalms mall

Panini Internazionale in Birger Jarls passagen

ICA Cafe at Medborgärplatsen (has toilet!)

Hemköp Cafe at Hornstull

Röda Korsets “Kuppan” Cafe near Skanstull (has toilet!)

Kafe 44 near Medborgärplatsen (has toilet!)

Kungliga Bibliotekets Lunch room (has toilet, and drinks are sold from a machine)

7-11 near Östermalmstorg WITH A STUDENT OR PENSIONER discount - has a fair amount of seating

Extra Note: Vete Katten is Mad Expensive - BUT their pots of tea are Large and can be shared, making it 20:- each for two people. Most cafes do not serve tea that way, unfortunately … (has toilet).

I will add more as I find them … and I hope I figure out how to properly map them soon!


Adana 2024 To do:


Until June
1. Fix some old blocks.
2. Update South Mahfesığmaz
3. Map Huzurevleri, Belediye Evleri, Yüzüncüyıl, Güzelyalı, Karslılar, Kurttepe
4. Add buildings for Toros, Mahfesığmaz and Yurt
Until December
1. Add bus routes and improve buplic transport map
2. Improve highways
3. Add buildings for Güzelyalı


I know that Nodes means something else in OSM but still trying to come up with a better term for what I have started considering nodes - namely areas that are a bit ambiguous in terms of what street they are ‘on’ because they are large enough to envelop or border a few different ones, and / or just very large parks, complexes, etc. that deserve their own dedicated exploration. One of these such not-nodes that we mapped today was St Luke’s Hospital / medical complex. We mainly walked around the outside and a few of the front entryways, mapping items like benches, trash cans, bicycle parking, art / memorial plaques, cameras, two mail drop boxes, one bus stop, and the chapel.

I was particularly interested to find a small sitting area with sculptures and memorial plaques which I hadn’t expected to see. I do have one annoyance with OSM, which I hope I can discover how to improve at some point: when I add a memorial plaque, I get a “fixme” telling me that it should be merged with a nearby building. Worse, some of the plaques that happened to be close enough to the building automatically merged with it. The problem is, these plaques were actually attached to freestanding sculptures in a courtyard / outdoor seating area and were not mounted on the building at all. One was free-standing next to a memorial tree that had been planted. I am not sure if there is a way to merge them with a sculpture, and for the ones that auto-attached to the building I could not figure out how to un-attach them.

Another node-like object that we looked at was a small cul-de-sac called Pearl street, that runs north-south for just a few blocks perpendicular to 43rd, near Sway coffee. We took the opportunity to return to Sway, this time driving instead of walking, and realized the parking (other than 5-minute spaces for folks getting takeout) was very limited. Pearl was mostly residential but had one church.

Next we will likely go to the H&R Block Art Space, in case it has anything of interest inside (e.g., photo booth, bulletin board) and then will continue on to the much longer eastern portion of 43rd past Gillham Park.