HOW DID WE GET HERE?
(a thread of threads, quotes, and links)
This is a collection of writings and research concerned with how we got where we are today, which is in fact the story of what has been done *to* us, and what has been *taken from us*.
By "us" we're talking about "the 99%", "workers", "wage slaves", all non-owners of private property, "the poor", unhoused people, indigenous people, even plenty of people who swear by capitalism and identify as "capitalist" yet have no capital of their own and no serious hope of ever having any worth speaking of. In other words almost everyone except for the very few who have had the power to exploit us and shape our lives to serve their agenda. We're going to examine institutions and concepts that have deeply altered our world at all levels, both our external and internal realities.
By "here" we are talking about climate crisis and myriad other environmental catastrophes resulting from hyper-excessive extraction, consumption and waste; a world of rampant inequality, exploitation and oppression, hunger and starvation, genocide and war; a world of fences, walls, gatekeepers, prisons, police, bullshit jobs and criminalized poverty; a world overrun with cars and preventable disease; a world of vanishing biodiversity and blooming fascism; a world where "democracy" results in being led by some of the worst of humanity; a world ruled by an imaginary but all-powerful and single-minded god: Capital.
Our inspiration and structural framework for this survey is this quote from "The Prehistory of Private Property", an important work from political philosopher Karl Widerquist and anthropologist Grant S. McCall:
"After hundreds of millennia in which all humans had direct access to the commons, it took only a few centuries for enclosure, colonialism, capitalism, and industrialization to cut off the vast majority of people on Earth from direct access to the means of economic production and therefore to rob them of the power to say no. It took only a few generations to convince most people that this situation was natural and inevitable. That false lesson needs to be unlearned."
https://widerquist.com/books-3/#2b
Also recommended: "Prehistoric Myths in Modern Political Philosophy"
https://widerquist.com/books-3/#4b
#capitalism #colonialism #enclosure #PrivateProperty #state #police #inequality #anthropology #environment #ClimateCrisis #economics
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(a thread of threads, quotes, and links)
This is a collection of writings and research concerned with how we got where we are today, which is in fact the story of what has been done *to* us, and what has been *taken from us*.
By "us" we're talking about "the 99%", "workers", "wage slaves", all non-owners of private property, "the poor", unhoused people, indigenous people, even plenty of people who swear by capitalism and identify as "capitalist" yet have no capital of their own and no serious hope of ever having any worth speaking of. In other words almost everyone except for the very few who have had the power to exploit us and shape our lives to serve their agenda. We're going to examine institutions and concepts that have deeply altered our world at all levels, both our external and internal realities.
By "here" we are talking about climate crisis and myriad other environmental catastrophes resulting from hyper-excessive extraction, consumption and waste; a world of rampant inequality, exploitation and oppression, hunger and starvation, genocide and war; a world of fences, walls, gatekeepers, prisons, police, bullshit jobs and criminalized poverty; a world overrun with cars and preventable disease; a world of vanishing biodiversity and blooming fascism; a world where "democracy" results in being led by some of the worst of humanity; a world ruled by an imaginary but all-powerful and single-minded god: Capital.
Our inspiration and structural framework for this survey is this quote from "The Prehistory of Private Property", an important work from political philosopher Karl Widerquist and anthropologist Grant S. McCall:
"After hundreds of millennia in which all humans had direct access to the commons, it took only a few centuries for enclosure, colonialism, capitalism, and industrialization to cut off the vast majority of people on Earth from direct access to the means of economic production and therefore to rob them of the power to say no. It took only a few generations to convince most people that this situation was natural and inevitable. That false lesson needs to be unlearned."
https://widerquist.com/books-3/#2b
Also recommended: "Prehistoric Myths in Modern Political Philosophy"
https://widerquist.com/books-3/#4b
#capitalism #colonialism #enclosure #PrivateProperty #state #police #inequality #anthropology #environment #ClimateCrisis #economics
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Books - Karl Widerquist
List of Books The Problem of Property: Taking the Freedom of Nonowners Seriously (2023) The Prehistory of Private Property: Implications for Modern Political Theory (2021) A Critical Analysis of Basic Income Experiments for Researchers, Policymakers,…Karl Widerquist
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•To introduce us to "A new understanding of human history and the roots of inequality" here is the TED talk by archaeologist David Wengrow (link includes transcript):
https://www.ted.com/talks/david_wengrow_a_new_understanding_of_human_history_and_the_roots_of_inequality/transcript?language=en
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David Wengrow: A new understanding of human history and the roots of inequality
www.ted.comRD
•"How to change the course of human history (at least, the part that’s already happened)"
by anthropologist David Graeber and David Wengrow:
https://www.eurozine.com/change-course-human-history/
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How to change the course of human history
www.eurozine.comRD
•What Is The State? A helpful thread from @HeavenlyPossum
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/113034394722266469
The State, Our Ancient Enemy
https://www.thecommoner.org.uk/the-state-our-ancient-enemy/
Here is another aspect of state, and another example of accepted narratives that need to be questioned in light of actual evidence. It turns out we can probably thank state for #patriarchy:
How did patriarchy actually begin?
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230525-how-did-patriarchy-actually-begin
More info about roles of men and women in past societies:
Shattering the myth of men as hunters and women as gatherers
https://phys.org/news/2023-06-shattering-myth-men-hunters-women.html
Worldwide survey kills the myth of ‘Man the Hunter’
https://www.science.org/content/article/worldwide-survey-kills-myth-man-hunter
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Shattering the myth of men as hunters and women as gatherers
Public Library of Science (Phys.org)RD
•We'll start with this excerpt from an article by political economist @blair_fix "Can the World Get Along Without Natural Resources?" (by all means read the entire excellent article, but for now this excerpt serves our purposes):
"The original sin
From its outset, the field of political economy was not designed, in any meaningful sense, to understand resource flows. Instead, it was designed to explain *class relations*. The goal of early political economists was to justify the income of different classes (workers, landowners and capitalists). They chose to do so by rooting this income in the ‘production of wealth’. What followed from this original sin was centuries of conflating income with ‘production’. This conflation is what allowed Robert Solow to proclaim that the world could “get along without natural resources”.
Let’s retrace this flawed thinking. It starts with a failure to understand property rights. Political economists largely understand property as a productive asset — a way of thinking that dates to the 17th-century work of John Locke (or perhaps earlier). Locke proclaimed that property rights stemmed from ‘natural law’. A man, Locke argued, has a natural right to own what he ‘produces’:
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...every Man has a Property in his own Person. This no Body has any Right to but himself. The Labour of his Body, and the Work of his Hands, we may say, are properly his. Whatsoever then he removes out of the State that Nature hath provided, and left it in, he hath mixed his Labour with, and joyned to it something that is his own, and thereby makes it his Property. It being by him removed from the common state Nature placed it in, hath by this labour something annexed to it, that excludes the common right of other Men. For this Labour being the unquestionable Property of the Labourer, no man but he can have a right to what that is once joyned to, at least where there is enough, and as good left in common for others.
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Locke’s thinking became known as the ‘labor theory of property’. This theory (and its derivatives) is why political economists misunderstand the role of natural resources. Here’s what happens. If we accept Locke’s argument that you have a right to own what you produce, it follows that your wealth should stem from your output.
Most political economists after Locke accepted this reasoning (at least in part). That meant that the debate was not about whether wealth was ‘produced’, but rather, about *which* ‘factors of production’ were ‘productive’. The physiocrats thought land alone was productive. Marx insisted that only labor was productive. Neoclassical economists proclaimed that, alongside labor, capital too was productive. The debate between these schools played out over centuries. The problem, though, is that it’s based on a flawed premise. The debate assumes that value is ‘produced’. (It’s not.)
To see the flaw, let’s go back to Locke’s theory of property rights. Notice that it’s not really a ‘theory’ in the scientific sense. It doesn’t explain *why* property rights exist. It explains why they *ought* to exist. Locke proclaimed that a man ought to own what he produces. That is his ‘natural right’.
This change from ‘is’ to ‘ought’ is important. It means that we’re not dealing with a scientific theory. We’re dealing with a system of *morality*. The philosopher David Hume was perhaps the first to understand this moral sleight of hand. He noticed that moral philosophers made their arguments more convincing by framing what ‘ought’ to be in terms of what ‘is’. Here’s Hume reflecting on this trick:
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In every system of morality, which I have hitherto met with, I have always remarked, that the author proceeds for some time in the ordinary way of reasoning, and establishes the being of a God, or makes observations concerning human affairs; when of a sudden I am surprised to find, that instead of the usual copulations of propositions, is, and is not, I meet with no proposition that is not connected with an ought, or an ought not. This change is imperceptible; but is, however, of the last consequence.
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With David Hume’s observation in mind, let’s return to Locke’s ‘theory’ of property. It’s not a ‘theory’ at all — it’s a moral treatise. According to Locke, we *ought* to own what we produce. But that doesn’t mean that we *do*.
To see the consequences of this mistake, we need an actual scientific theory of property rights — a theory that explains why property exists, not why it ‘ought’ to exist. The most convincing theory of private property, in my opinion, comes from the work of Jonathan Nitzan and Shimshon Bichler. To understand property, Nitzan and Bichler argue that we should turn Locke’s idea on its head. Property isn’t a ‘natural right’. It’s an act of *power*.
Property, Nitzan and Bichler observe, is an act of exclusion. If I own something, that means that I have the right to exclude others from using it. It’s this exclusionary power that defines private property. Here are Nitzan and Bichler describing this act:
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The most important feature of private ownership is not that it enables those who own, but that it disables those who do not. Technically, anyone can get into someone else’s car and drive away, or give an order to sell all of Warren Buffet’s shares in Berkshire Hathaway. The sole purpose of private ownership is to prevent us from doing so. In this sense, private ownership is wholly and only an institution of exclusion, and institutional exclusion is a matter of organized power.
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When we think like Nitzan and Bichler, we get a very different view of income. Recall that most political economists see property in terms of the ‘things’ that are owned. They then argue that income stems from these ‘things’. Nitzan and Bichler upend this logic. Property, they argue, is about the *act* of ownership — the institutional act of exclusion. Income stems from this exclusionary act. We earn income from the *fence* of property rights, not from what’s inside the fence. In other words, if you can’t restrict access to your property, you can’t earn income from it."
https://economicsfromthetopdown.com/2020/06/18/can-the-world-get-along-without-natural-resources/
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Can the World Get Along Without Natural Resources? – Economics from the Top Down
Blair Fix (Economics from the Top Down)RD
•https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110164109548612913
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/109465708774475922
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•"Locke could hardly have been unaware that his theory provided a justification for an ongoing process disappropriating European commoners and indigenous peoples alike or that that process amounted to redistribution without compensation from poor to rich. This observation raises serious doubts that the principles contemporary propertarians have inherited from him reflect some deeper commitment to nonaggression or noninterference.
Lockeanism eventually revolutionized the world’s conception of what property was by portraying full liberal ownership as if it were something natural that had always existed, even though it was only then being established by enclosure and colonialization. Lockean and propertarian *stories* might have been more important than their *theories* in that effort. The “original appropriator” in Locke’s story resembles European colonialists rather than prehistoric indigenous North Americans who first farmed the continent. Locke’s appropriator establishes the fee-simple rights that colonial governments (building a global cash economy) tend to establish rather than the complex, overlapping rights indigenous farmers in stateless societies tend to establish."
"The intent of Blackstone, Locke, Grotius, and other early modern property theorists was not to describe what property actually was or even what kind of institutions most people wanted at the time. Instead, it was “a common strategy of claiming the ground of property so as to preempt serious consideration of alternatives like common property” [Olsen,E. J. 2019, “The Early Modern ‘Creation’ of Property and its Enduring influence,” European Journal of Political Theory, Online Early, 1–23]. In that way, private property theory furnished propaganda for the enclosure and colonial movements that forcibly established that institution around the world."
https://widerquist.com/books-3/#2b
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Books - Karl Widerquist
Karl WiderquistRD
•@HeavenlyPossum on the Irish rundale system of common property:
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110219111305684330
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•"The current biodiversity crisis is often depicted as a struggle to preserve untouched habitats. Here, we combine global maps of human populations and land use over the past 12,000 y with current biodiversity data to show that nearly three quarters of terrestrial nature has long been shaped by diverse histories of human habitation and use by Indigenous and traditional peoples. With rare exceptions, current biodiversity losses are caused not by human conversion or degradation of untouched ecosystems, but rather by the appropriation, colonization, and intensification of use in lands inhabited and used by prior societies. Global land use history confirms that empowering the environmental stewardship of Indigenous peoples and local communities will be critical to conserving biodiversity across the planet.
"Archaeological and paleoecological evidence shows that by 10,000 BCE, all human societies employed varying degrees of ecologically transformative land use practices, including burning, hunting, species propagation, domestication, cultivation, and others that have left long-term legacies across the terrestrial biosphere. Yet, a lingering paradigm among natural scientists, conservationists, and policymakers is that human transformation of terrestrial nature is mostly recent and inherently destructive. Here, we use the most up-to-date, spatially explicit global reconstruction of historical human populations and land use to show that this paradigm is likely wrong. Even 12,000 y ago, nearly three quarters of Earth’s land was inhabited and therefore shaped by human societies, including more than 95% of temperate and 90% of tropical woodlands. Lands now characterized as “natural,” “intact,” and “wild” generally exhibit long histories of use, as do protected areas and Indigenous lands, and current global patterns of vertebrate species richness and key biodiversity areas are more strongly associated with past patterns of land use than with present ones in regional landscapes now characterized as natural. The current biodiversity crisis can seldom be explained by the loss of uninhabited wildlands, resulting instead from the appropriation, colonization, and intensifying use of the biodiverse cultural landscapes long shaped and sustained by prior societies. Recognizing this deep cultural connection with biodiversity will therefore be essential to resolve the crisis."
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2023483118
Those in power have been telling us that *we* (people in general or "human nature") are the problem. Popular narratives insist that humans and agriculture of any kind are intrinsically and inevitably destructive to the biosphere.
The actual evidence tells us otherwise:
@HeavenlyPossum on "Tells" (archeology):
"And here these farmers sat, year after year, millennia after millennia, in one place. These were people working with the same Neolithic agricultural package, growing the same sorts of wheat and raising the same sorts of sheep, in the fields around their tells.
They did not die out. They did not exhaust their soils to extinction. Many of them — especially the tells in the Danube Basin that constitute “Old Europe” — developed no states, as some people believe is inevitable from wheat cultivation. If they did leave, they left for reasons unrelated to the success of their way of life. But, as I noted, some of these tells are still inhabited, like the central citadel of Aleppo in Syria."
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/113367947919067023
Milpas
Based on the agronomy of the Maya and of other Mesoamerican peoples, the milpa system is used to produce crops of maize, beans, and squash without employing artificial pesticides and artificial fertilizers...
A milpa is a field, usually but not always recently cleared, in which farmers plant a dozen crops at once including maize, avocados, multiple varieties of squash and bean, melon, tomatoes, chilis, sweet potato, jícama, amaranth, and mucuna ... Milpa crops are nutritionally and environmentally complementary...
The milpa, in the estimation of H. Garrison Wilkes, a maize researcher at the University of Massachusetts in Boston, "is one of the most successful human inventions ever created."
The concept of milpa is a sociocultural construct rather than simply a system of agriculture. It involves complex interactions and relationships between farmers, as well as distinct personal relationships with both the crops and land. For example, it has been noted that "the making of milpa is the central, most sacred act, one which binds together the family, the community, the universe ... [it] forms the core institution of Indian society in Mesoamerica and its religious and social importance often appear to exceed its nutritional and economic importance."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milpa
Evidence confirms an anthropic origin of Amazonian Dark Earths
First described over 120 years ago in Brazil, Amazonian Dark Earths (ADEs) are expanses of dark soil that are exceptionally fertile and contain large quantities of archaeological artifacts... Archaeological research provides clear evidence that their widespread formation in lowland South America was concentrated in the Late Holocene, an outcome of sharp human population growth that peaked towards 1000 BP
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-31064-2
The Supposedly Pristine, Untouched Amazon Rainforest Was Actually Shaped By Humans
"Perhaps [...] the very biodiversity we want to preserve is not only due to thousands of years of natural evolution but also the result of the human footprint on them," Iriarte says. "The more we learn, the more the evidence point to the latter."
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/pristine-untouched-amazonian-rainforest-was-actually-shaped-humans-180962378/
Lost Cities of the Amazon Discovered From the Air
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/lost-cities-of-the-amazon-discovered-from-the-air-180980142/
Easter Island study casts doubt on theory of ‘ecocide’ by early population
https://www.theguardian.com/science/article/2024/jun/21/easter-island-study-casts-doubt-on-theory-of-ecocide-by-early-population
The truth about Easter Island: a sustainable society has been falsely blamed for its own demise
https://theconversation.com/the-truth-about-easter-island-a-sustainable-society-has-been-falsely-blamed-for-its-own-demise-85563
Debunking the “Ecocide” Myth: The Real Story of Easter Island
https://scitechdaily.com/debunking-the-ecocide-myth-the-real-story-of-easter-island/
Climate change, not human population growth, correlates with Late Quaternary megafauna declines in North America
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-21201-8
On Navajo Lands, Ancient Ways Are Restoring the Parched Earth
https://e360.yale.edu/features/navajo-natural-infrastructure-dryland-streams
Rather than human nature, agriculture, or over population, the cause of our current nightmare of environmental destruction originated with a specific group of people who had the power to enforce their exploitation and pillaging over the entire globe eventually. We'll look more later at the disastrous results of colonialism and capitalism.
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HeavenlyPossum
2024-10-25 12:00:03
RD
•Here is an introduction to "The Tragedy of the Commons" from @HeavenlyPossum:
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/109449321659418326
10/30
RD
•A Short History of Enclosure in Britain
https://www.thelandmagazine.org.uk/articles/short-history-enclosure-britain
11/30
RD
•https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110123111646315678
(for more horrifying details of car culture see this article which fleshes out the statistics very well though it falls short by only dealing with superficial causes and solutions:
https://devonzuegel.com/post/we-should-be-building-cities-for-people-not-cars )
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We Should Be Building Cities for People, Not Cars
devonzuegel.comRD
•https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110162427730407993
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•https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110108848618951452
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•@HeavenlyPossum on the imposition of markets and the demolition of society:
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110182089285428195
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•"No argument about the freedom to appropriate can support the market economy, because capitalism makes people no freer to appropriate property than the common property regime, public property regime, or any other system. A person born into the contemporary market economy is as unfree to appropriate land as a person born to a common property regime or a public property regime that allows no private landownership. The right to appropriate scarce resources, as economist define the term (i.e. anything with a monetary value), is inconsistent with a system of equal freedom from coercion. The propertyless today are not and cannot be equally free to appropriate.
"Lomasky’s “liberty to acquire” holdings actually means the “liberty” to purchase goods. That’s not a liberty at all. That’s a positive opportunity. The goods you are expected to buy are made out of resources you have forcibly been excluded from using yourself. The chance to take orders from one resource owner so that you can “earn” the right to buy goods from other resource owners might be useful, but it is not freedom from some form of coercion that exists in societies with a common property regime."
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RD
•State Violence, The Diamond/Water Paradox, and an Invisible Axiom of Classical Economics
https://chez-risk.in/2023/01/29/state-violence-the-diamond-water-paradox-and-an-invisible-axiom-of-classical-economics/
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RD
•@HeavenlyPossum on Wealth
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110043938013023300
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•https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/109463692215268151
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•https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110224911687712240
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•https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X22002169
Highlights:
- The common notion that extreme poverty is the “natural” condition of humanity and only declined with the rise of capitalism rests on income data that do not adequately capture access to essential goods.
- Data on real wages suggests that, historically, extreme poverty was uncommon and arose primarily during periods of severe social and economic dislocation, particularly under colonialism.
- The rise of capitalism from the long 16th century onward is associated with a decline in wages to below subsistence, a deterioration in human stature, and an upturn in premature mortality.
- In parts of South Asia, sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America, wages and/or height have still not recovered.
- Where progress has occurred, significant improvements in human welfare began only around the 20th century. These gains coincide with the rise of anti-colonial and socialist political movements.
Abstract:
"This paper assesses claims that, prior to the 19th century, around 90% of the human population lived in extreme poverty (defined as the inability to access essential goods), and that global human welfare only began to improve with the rise of capitalism. These claims rely on national accounts and PPP exchange rates that do not adequately capture changes in people’s access to essential goods. We assess this narrative against extant data on three empirical indicators of human welfare: real wages (with respect to a subsistence basket), human height, and mortality. We ask whether these indicators improved or deteriorated with the rise of capitalism in five world regions - Europe, Latin America, sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia and China – using the chronology put forward by world-systems theorists. The evidence we review here points to three conclusions. (1) It is unlikely that 90% of the human population lived in extreme poverty prior to the 19th century. Historically, unskilled urban labourers in all regions tended to have wages high enough to support a family of four above the poverty line by working 250 days or 12 months a year, except during periods of severe social dislocation, such as famines, wars, and institutionalized dispossession – particularly under colonialism. (2) The rise of capitalism caused a dramatic deterioration of human welfare. In all regions studied here, incorporation into the capitalist world-system was associated with a decline in wages to below subsistence, a deterioration in human stature, and an upturn in premature mortality. In parts of South Asia, sub-Saharan Africa, and Latin America, key welfare metrics have still not recovered. (3) Where progress has occurred, significant improvements in human welfare began several centuries after the rise of capitalism. In the core regions of Northwest Europe, progress began in the 1880s, while in the periphery and semi-periphery it began in the mid-20th century, a period characterized by the rise of anti-colonial and socialist political movements that redistributed incomes and established public provisioning systems."
edited 8 Oct 2024 to add this side note:
You may encounter pro-capitalism arguments that offer supposed evidence from data presented at a site called "Our World In Data" (often quoted by mainstream journalists). Do not take anything from that site at face value! The data presented is often incomplete, cherry-picked, manipulated, and not standardized properly. Biases are ignored and uncertainties treated as fact. Here is a revealing article about the people and agenda behind that site:
The Unbearable Anthropocentrism of Our World in Data
https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/07/26/the-unbearable-anthropocentrism-of-our-world-in-data/
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The Unbearable Anthropocentrism of Our World in Data - CounterPunch.org
Christopher Ketcham (CounterPunch.org)RD
•How Colonialism Spawned and Continues to Exacerbate the Climate Crisis
https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2022/09/21/how-colonialism-spawned-and-continues-to-exacerbate-the-climate-crisis/
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How Colonialism Spawned and Continues to Exacerbate the Climate Crisis
Anuradha Varanasi (State of the Planet)RD
•https://c4ss.org/content/52864
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Victims of Capitalism Day
Center for a Stateless SocietyRD
•The Rising Chorus of Renewable Energy Skeptics
The green techno-dream is so vastly destructive, they say, ‘we have to come up with a different plan.’
https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2023/04/07/Rising-Chorus-Renewable-Energy-Skeptics/
Do I report what I’ve learned about solar PVs - or live with it, privately?
https://katiesinger.substack.com/p/do-i-report-what-ive-learned-about
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Do I report what I’ve learned about solar PVs— or live with it, privately?
Katie Singer (Katie Singer's Substack)RD
•"‘They Will Die’: Tesla-Linked Mining Project Is Devastating One of the World’s Uncontacted Peoples"
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxj8wm/uncontacted-tribe-threatened-indonesia
"Green Jobs or Greenwashing?"
Unequal exchange, extractivism, and colonialism in the new energy economy
https://maxwilbert.substack.com/p/green-jobs-or-greenwashing
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#environment #colonialism #greenwashing #capitalism #ClimateJustice #ClimateCrisis #Indigenous
Green Jobs or Greenwashing?
Max Wilbert (Biocentric with Max Wilbert)RD
•Capitalist Realism (Wikipedia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalist_Realism
Cultural Hegemony (Wikipedia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony
Ideology: Coercion's Spin Doctor
https://www.thecommoner.org.uk/ideology-coercions-spin-doctor/
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Ideology: Coercion's Spin Doctor
Samuel Clarke (The Commoner)Ugly Bag of Mostly Waterudostępnił to.
RD
•For now we'll just touch on this with some thought-provoking examples.
From @AdrianRiskin - Why Are Children Forced To Study Mathematics At Gunpoint?
https://chez-risk.in/2023/04/05/why-are-children-forced-to-study-mathematics-at-gunpoint/
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adrian
2023-04-05 20:57:50
RD
•"...private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main sources of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights."
As a result we have unwittingly internalized Capital's demands, to our great detriment. Capital's narrative is deeply embedded into every aspect of our lives.
Note how this quote from the speech "The Three Evils of Society" by Martin Luther King Jr. assumes the Protestant work ethic is a good thing and not itself part of the implanted narrative that serves Capital. Instead of calling it out, MLK tried to distance it from capitalism. So while the second sentence of this quote is very true, the first sentence is an example of the deep conditioning of the narrative of capitalism and its precursors:
"We have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor, both black and white, both here and abroad."
Even "Democratic Socialist" Bernie Sanders sadly equates dignity and security with wage slavery:
"This is the United States. We are the richest country on the planet. One job should be enough to live with security and dignity."
David Graeber, from “Debt: The First 5,000 Years”:
"For me, this is exactly what's so pernicious about the morality of debt: the way that financial imperatives constantly try to reduce us all, despite ourselves, to the equivalent of pillagers, eyeing the world simply for what can be turned into money - and then tell us that it's only those who are willing to see the world as pillagers who deserve access to the resources required to pursue anything in life other than money. It introduces moral perversions on almost every level. ("Cancel all student loan debt? But that would be unfair to all those people who struggled for years to pay back their student loans!" Let me assure the reader that, as someone who struggled for years to pay back his student loans and finally did so, this argument makes about as much sense as saying it would be "unfair" to a mugging victim not to mug their neighbors too.)
"The argument might perhaps make sense if one agreed with the underlying assumption - that work is by definition virtuous, since the ultimate measure of humanity's success as a species is its ability to increase the overall global output of goods and services by at least 5 percent per year. The problem is that it is becoming increasingly obvious that if we continue along these lines much longer, we're likely to destroy everything."
As @HeavenlyPossum has commented: "capitalism depends on ignorance of history for its ideological survival". It is the intent of this project to do what we can to remove some of this ignorance, to share the debunking of some of the lies we've been told; to encourage *unlearning the lesson* that has been forced upon us.
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Ugly Bag of Mostly Waterudostępnił to.
RD
•Anarchy??!
Yes.
From @AdrianRiskin - "Anarchism isn’t a fantasy and it’s not a political theory — it’s a collective name for whatever forms of society can exist without murder as a political tool"
https://chez-risk.in/2023/02/19/anarchism-isnt-a-fantasy-and-its-not-a-political-theory-its-a-collective-name-for-whatever-forms-of-society-can-exist-without-murder-as-a-political-tool/
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RD
•Here are a couple popular introductions:
"Are You An Anarchist? The Answer May Surprise You!"
by David Graeber
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-are-you-an-anarchist-the-answer-may-surprise-you
"To Change Everything"
https://crimethinc.com/tce
Here are some pieces dealing with specific common concerns about anarchism:
@HeavenlyPossum on Anarchism and Leadership
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/113103845709064779
Anarchists Are Not Naive About Human Nature
https://anarchopac.com/2022/02/28/anarchists-are-not-naive-about-human-nature/
The Conspiracy of Law by Howard Zinn
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/howard-zinn-the-conspiracy-of-law
Anarchism and Democracy
https://anarchopac.com/2022/04/15/anarchism-and-democracy/
David Graeber on democracy:
There Never Was a West
Or, Democracy Emerges From the Spaces In Between
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-there-never-was-a-west
[edited 20 Nov 2024 to add this book]
Here is a different take on democracy. This book is not really an introductory sort of text, more like internal anarchist discourse, but as such it offers revealing insights into actual anarchist ideas, practices and experiences. Featuring many fascinating examples and analysis from recent history, grounding it in real life struggle, not just theory.
"From Democracy To Freedom"
The Difference Between Government and Self-Determination
https://crimethinc.com/books/from-democracy-to-freedom
Free PDF: https://cdn.crimethinc.com/assets/books/from-democracy-to-freedom/from-democracy-to-freedom_screen_single_page_view.pdf
Here is a rich survey of anarchistic principles and practices in action in the real world, past and present: "Anarchy Works"
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works
For further research here is a very good reading list ranging from basic introductions to specialized aspects and history of anarchism:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KDEM4AzinLVFQZGDljFriiMwWFn73IIIlp26LwEasK0/edit
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HeavenlyPossum
2024-09-08 20:35:23
Are You An Anarchist? The Answer May Surprise You!
The Anarchist LibraryRD
•If you have ever been told to "go learn some economics!", this post is for you. Here are links to a surplus of valuable thoughts on the subject, starting with the @blair_fix piece that was excerpted in the fifth post of this thread, in case you didn't read the whole thing then:
Can the World Get Along Without Natural Resources?
https://economicsfromthetopdown.com/2020/06/18/can-the-world-get-along-without-natural-resources/
edited 27 Sept 2024 to add this revealing paper from Shimshon Bichler and Jonathan Nitzan on how both liberal/neoclassical and Marxist economists fail at describing anything actually real when it comes to capital:
Capital accumulation: fiction and reality
"What we need now are not better tools, more accurate modelling and improved data, but a different way of thinking altogether, a totally new cosmology for the post-capitalist age."
http://www.paecon.net/PAEReview/issue72/BichlerNitzan72.pdf
A mathematician on the "free market" economic model, excellent thread from @magitweeter
https://mastodon.social/@magitweeter/111653879323307502
David Graeber: Against Economics
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-against-economics
Interesting piece about what supply and demand misses, with important insights about value and market power, poverty and inequality:
Bargaining Power and Prices: A Response to Sanyazi and Carson
https://c4ss.org/content/58918
Exponential Economist Meets Finite Physicist
https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2012/04/economist-meets-physicist/
Free Market Genocides: The Real History of Trade
https://evonomics.com/free-market-genocide-the-real-history-of-trade/
GDP and the Idolatry of Growth from @dsdamato https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/05/25/gdp-and-the-idolatry-of-growth/
The Lie At The Heart Of Consumer Society
https://indica.medium.com/the-lie-at-the-heart-of-consumer-society-1a6fe24d832f
The Problem With Economic Models from @pluralistic https://pluralistic.net/2023/04/03/all-models-are-wrong/#some-are-useful
David Graeber: What is the meaning of money?
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-note-worthy-what-is-the-meaning-of-money
Here's another article from @blair_fix that really belongs here:
The Ritual of Capitalization
https://economicsfromthetopdown.com/2021/06/02/the-ritual-of-capitalization/
For an extensive deep dive into capitalist economics, here is a very thorough examination from An Anarchist FAQ, very much worth your time:
What are the myths of capitalist economics?
https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionC.html
"State Capitalism: The Wages System Under New Management" by Adam Buick and John Crump
https://files.libcom.org/files/State%20Capitalism.pdf
The focus of this short book is to argue (very successfully IMO) that individual private ownership is not a defining feature of capitalism and that countries such as China, The Soviet Union (this was published in 1986), Cuba, Vietnam, etc, though they may identify as "socialist" and are called "communist" by many are in fact simply another form of capitalism called "state capitalism". In the process of making this argument, this book also became an excellent general reference for understanding what capitalism really is, how capitalist economics work, what socialism really is and isn't, and plenty of fascinating and clarifying historic context.
I would be remiss not to mention:
"Debt: The First 5,000 Years" by David Graeber, an absolute must-read to better understand the history of debt and money.
https://we.riseup.net/assets/393727/David+Graeber+Debt+The+First+5+000+Years.pdf
#economics #capitalism
The Ritual of Capitalization – Economics from the Top Down
Blair Fix (Economics from the Top Down)HeavenlyPossumudostępnił to.
RD
•Confronting Power, Accumulation, and Ecocide
I found this essay to be an excellent overview bringing together many of the same themes presented in this thread, explaining the necessity of an anarchist approach to #degrowth and clearly describing the continuum of hierarchical power structures, #state, #colonialism, #capitalism, #ClimateCrisis and #ecocide. Features solid basic info on #anarchism and #democracy
https://nishikantsheorey.substack.com/p/prefiguring-degrowth
Prefiguring Degrowth
Nishikant Sheorey (Convivial Means)RD
•The Climate Movement is Making a Huge Mistake
"Judged by their actions rather than their words, many environmental organizations put more emphasis on sustaining a modern western lifestyle than on sustaining the planet.
They’ve become more focused on what is politically feasible than what is ecologically necessary."
I wish this link wasn't on substack, but I thought it important info and perspective to share!
https://maxwilbert.substack.com/p/the-climate-movement-is-making-a
The Climate Movement is Making a Huge Mistake
Max Wilbert (Biocentric with Max Wilbert)RD
•Many claims about human nature have been trotted out in defense of the idea that we must be managed or controlled by some higher authority (God, state, rule of law, capital, "the market", so-called "democracy") because we are inevitably violent and selfish, perpetually prone to being oppressed by the ever-present potential tyrants among us, condemned to reproduce hierarchy forever everywhere.
To dispel these non-innocent narratives, here are some @HeavenlyPossum threads that are bursting at the seams with history, archeology and anthropology:
On Anarchism and Leadership
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/113103845709064779
A survey of some of the ways in which people sustain egalitarian societies against would-be tyrants.
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/111290743792188200
Neither violent conflict nor peaceful cooperation are inevitable products of human nature, but rather deliberate social choices we can make.
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/111025312476874870
On the social construction of altruism and egoism.
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/111466874348514976
An exploration of some of the ways non-state societies deter power-seeking and aggression.
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110683095773219652
The state is not necessary for preventing violent aggression, such as murder, and indeed may be worse for that purpose than its absence.
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/111198577601193102
“Tribal” societies were often more civilized than capitalist modernity is.
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110916353874829458
Do people really like living under state rule?
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110685130975554822
Some introductory thoughts on the state, hierarchy, and statelessness.
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/111053356612723637
HeavenlyPossum
2023-10-08 09:00:39
RDudostępnił to.
Vector Hugo
•Your selection of words adressed to me is rasing my suspicion that you're doing anti- fascism pretty good, even without "anti".
RD
•For anyone who is curious what the hell @gfkdsgn@burma.social (blocked) is talking about here (see attached screenshot), they're referring to this post I made:
https://kolektiva.social/@RD4Anarchy/112032565963680451
which was in reply to @gfkdsgn@burma.social chiming in on a post from @luckytran talking about the science on how long covid patients remain contagious:
https://med-mastodon.com/@luckytran/112028843578506032
@gfkdsgn@burma.social's response was to fling this conspiracy theory-based non-sequiturd:
"Do you @luckytran know what these scientists say about survival rate of CoVid-19 vaccines?"
https://burma.social/@gfkdsgn/112029387716643904
They later tried to back this up with a video from Kary Mullis. I replied by sharing some of Mullis' other opinions.
RD
2024-03-03 15:54:52
HeavenlyPossum
•RD
•An area in northeast Syria that’s populated by around five million people and is roughly the size of Belgium, Rojava (Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria) is a vision of hope and a daily struggle full of paradoxes. We have much to learn from this experiment and it's history.
Rojava Revolution: Women’s Liberation, Democracy and Ecology in North-East Syria
https://bioneers.org/rojava-revolution-womens-liberation-democracy-and-ecology-in-north-east-syria-ztvz2406/
Hope and Contradictions: My Year in Rojava
https://www.defendrojava.org/news/hope-and-contradictions-my-year-in-rojava
Hope and Contradictions: My Year in Rojava
Emergency Committee for Rojava ECR (Emergency Committee for Rojava)Adrian Riskin 🇵🇸🍉
•RD
•Also: fuck so-called "anti-imperialist" campists!
RD
•Essay by David Wengrow: Beyond Kingdoms and Empires
A revolution in archaeology is transforming our picture of past populations and the scope of human freedoms
https://aeon.co/essays/an-archeological-revolution-transforms-our-image-of-human-freedoms
@HeavenlyPossum thread on the spread of agriculture and the rise of the state:
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/112864320248967445
@HeavenlyPossum thread on humans' relationship with "wilderness":
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/112785679516359170
How ghost cities in the Amazon are rewriting the story of civilization
Remote sensing, including lidar, reveals that the Amazon was once home to millions of people. The emerging picture of how they lived challenges ideas of human cultural evolution (archived from NewScientist)
https://archive.ph/vcsip
@HeavenlyPossum thread: The City Without the State—complex urban infrastructure at the Pingliantai Neolithic site
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/111079324770420934
@HeavenlyPossum thread: The City Without the State—political revolution and social leveling at the Taosi Neolithic site
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/111098000190597587
Exploring the ways in which residents of Neolithic Çatalhöyük in Anatolia differentiated themselves as well as the ways in which they did not:
https://kolektiva.social/@RD4Anarchy/113097719610217031
HeavenlyPossum
2024-07-14 16:01:33
How ghost cities in the Amazon are rewriting the story of civilisation
Colin Barras (New Scientist)2 użytkowników udostępniło to dalej
HeavenlyPossum i RDudostępnił to.
RD
•The institution of police that we have now has only existed for around 200 years, but many people have been conditioned to accept it as a natural and necessary fact of life and have trouble accepting the idea of abolishing the police, even if they strongly support major (dare I say utopian) police reform. Constantly echoing around the Fediverse are debates around questions like "what would you replace police with?" or "what would you do about violent crimes?"
Let's examine the real origins and purposes of police, and the truth about what they actually do and don't do.
Origins of the police - David Whitehouse
"Excellent text examining the creation of the first police forces, which took place in England and the US in just a few decades in the mid-19th century. And explaining that they were not brought into being to prevent crime or protect the public, but primarily to control crowds: the working class, white and black."
https://libcom.org/article/origins-police-david-whitehouse
Police are not primarily crime fighters, according to the data
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/police-are-not-primarily-crime-fighters-according-data-2022-11-02/
Police Have No Duty to Protect the Public
https://prospect.org/justice/police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-public/
The Kids The Guns Are For
The same police force that failed Uvalde children is arresting peaceful student protesters at UT Austin. It's not about safety. It's about order.
https://www.momleft.com/p/the-kids-the-guns-are-for
Evidence that curtailing proactive policing can reduce major crime
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-017-0211-5
A little roundup of some of the ways police play a “necessary role” in society. (sarcastically titled thread of links compiled by @HeavenlyPossum)
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110809880758838358
The Body Camera: The Language of our Dreams (64 page pdf from the Yale Journal of Law & Liberation)
Did you know that police forces were pushing to implement body cams on their own, before they were pressured to do so by activists for police reform? To understand why, I highly recommend this very well-researched and revealing article by Alec Karakatsanis penetrating the facade of police reform in the specific case of body cams.
Excerpts from the introduction:
Most people would prefer a society with less government surveillance, violence by employees of the state, and waste of public resources. And yet they all keep growing despite decades of “reform.” It is my uncomfortable suggestion in this article that they all keep expanding in part because of these “reforms.” ... By situating the rise of the police body camera within its actual legal, political, and economic contexts, I suggest that the body camera is one of the most important Trojan horses in contemporary U.S. history. ... All of it happened under the guise of making the police bureaucracy more “accountable” and “transparent.”
https://bpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/campuspress.yale.edu/dist/f/4764/files/2024/07/Alec-Karakatsanis_The-Body-Camera-FINAL.pdf
The End of Policing Means the End of Capitalism — Some Likely but Rarely Discussed Economic Effects of Abolition by @AdrianRiskin
https://chez-risk.in/2023/08/24/the-end-of-policing-means-the-end-of-capitalism-some-likely-but-rarely-discussed-economic-effects-of-abolition/
Alternatives to Police
A compilation of case-studies on alternatives to cops. A long bibliography for further reading is also included.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/rose-city-copwatch-alternatives-to-police
The End of Policing
This book by Alex Vitale falls short of addressing fundamental conditions such as the state, rule of law, and capitalism, and so its proposed solutions are somewhat shallow and flimsy, and despite the title it never quite fully embraces complete abolition of police. Nevertheless it remains a valuable resource as a detailed survey of the vast landscape of death, damage and abuse caused by police (which has only gotten worse since 2017 when this book was published). Notably this book makes its argument against police from a more conventional, non-anarchist context, demonstrating that police abolition is not merely a fringe ideology of extreme radicals but an idea that makes sense even in more mainstream, pragmatic liberal terms.
https://files.libcom.org/files/Vitale%20-%20The%20End%20of%20Policing%20(Police)%20(2017).pdf
The institution of police is closely associated with a belief in Rule Of Law. Here are a couple essays on that important context:
Already shared earlier in this thread, this classic piece "The Conspiracy of Law" by Howard Zinn is also very appropriate here.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/howard-zinn-the-conspiracy-of-law
Take Your Pick: Law or Freedom
How “Nobody Is above the Law” Abets the Rise of Tyranny
https://crimethinc.com/2018/11/09/take-your-pick-law-or-freedom-how-nobody-is-above-the-law-abets-the-rise-of-tyranny
#police #abolition #ACAB #RuleOfLaw
The Kids The Guns Are For
Kelly Weill (MomLeft)2 użytkowników udostępniło to dalej
earthling i RDudostępnił to.
RD
•US police use force on 300,000 people a year, with numbers rising since George Floyd: ‘relentless violence’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/28/police-use-of-force-violence-data-analysis
Some highlights:
Police in the US use force on at least 300,000 people each year, injuring an estimated 100,000 of them, according to a groundbreaking data analysis on law enforcement encounters.
...despite widespread protests against police brutality following the murder of George Floyd in 2020, overall use of force has remained steady since then – and in many jurisdictions, has increased.
The data builds on past reports that found US police kill roughly 1,200 people each year, or three people a day, a death toll that has crept up every year and dramatically exceeds rates in comparable nations. The nonfatal force statistics and accompanying report illustrate how the killings are just a small fraction of broader police violence and injuries caused by law enforcement.
The group also estimated that along with the 300,000 use-of-force cases each year, there are an additional 200,000 cases in which officers threaten force.
Many people subject to police force are unarmed
Thirty-one agencies disclosed whether people were armed when they faced police force. On average, 83% of people subjected to force across those jurisdictions were unarmed, the agencies reported.
Thirteen agencies disclosed information on what preceded the encounter. In those jurisdictions, fewer than 40% of use-of-force incidents originated with reports of violence or involved a violent crime charge. This mirrors patterns for lethal force, with data suggesting the majority of people killed by police are not accused of violent or serious crimes.
The racial disparities are stark
Black people were subject to overall police use of force at a rate 3.2 times greater than white people in 2022, according to the report. That disparity is more severe than lethal force trends; Black people were killed by police at 2.6 times the rate of white people in 2022.
Limited data also suggests that unhoused people are disproportionately impacted; for the eight agencies that disclosed housing status, 11 to 44% of people subject to force were listed as unhoused.
#police #ACAB
US police use force on 300,000 people a year, with numbers rising since George Floyd: ‘relentless violence’
Sam Levin (The Guardian)2 użytkowników udostępniło to dalej
HeavenlyPossum i Ugly Bag of Mostly Waterudostępnił to.
Fabio G.
•Ugly Bag of Mostly Water
•HeavenlyPossum
•RDudostępnił to.
RD
•Every other function is tertiary to this primary role. The purpose of a system is what it does.
Police are only necessary for the function of society if you imagine that harassing and abusing unhoused people is necessary for the function of society."
- @HeavenlyPossum
Detailed and comprehensive report from Human Rights Watch, August 2024:
“You Have to Move!”
https://www.hrw.org/report/2024/08/14/you-have-move/cruel-and-ineffective-criminalization-unhoused-people-los-angeles
The Cruel and Ineffective Criminalization of Unhoused People in Los Angeles
"Human Rights Watch analysis of LAPD data from 2016 through 2022 revealed that even though unhoused people account for less than 1 percent of the overall population of the city, 38 percent of all arrests in Los Angeles were of people identified as unhoused, including over 99 percent of all infraction arrests and citations, and over 42 percent of all misdemeanors."
"Criminalization effectively destroys lives and property based on race and economic class. It is a set of policies that prioritizes the needs and values of the wealthy, property owners, and business elites, at the expense of the rights of people living in poverty to an adequate standard of living. As a consequence of historical and present policies and practices that discriminate against Black and other BIPOC people, these groups receive the brunt of criminalization."
RD
•https://granta.com/violence-in-blue/
Violence in Blue | Patrick Ball | Granta
Luke (Granta)2 użytkowników udostępniło to dalej
HeavenlyPossum i Aral Balkanudostępnił to.
Adrian Riskin 🇵🇸🍉
•RDudostępnił to.
DP0
•The problem of police violence is not new. Actually, it is that old that there is even a Latin expression for it: "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?". So everywhere, also in Europe, the "esprit de corps" among the police is an issue. In Europe, however, every lethal interaction must be reported and investigated, making cover-ups at least more difficult.
Rachel Rawlings
•RD
•"Our results [exploring the ways in which residents of Neolithic Çatalhöyük in Anatolia differentiated themselves as well as the ways in which they did not] indicate no unified trajectory of inequality through time... and no evidence for institutionalized or lasting economic or social inequality."
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0307067
"Çatalhöyük has strong evidence of an egalitarian society, as no houses with distinctive features (belonging to royalty or religious hierarchy for example) have been found so far. The most recent investigations also reveal little social distinction based on gender, with men and women receiving equivalent nutrition and seeming to have equal social status, as typically found in Paleolithic cultures."
"Noting the lack of hierarchy and economic inequality, historian and anti-capitalist author Murray Bookchin has argued that Çatalhöyük was an early example of anarcho-communism."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%87atalh%C3%B6y%C3%BCk
archaeological site in Konya Province, Turkey
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Levka
•https://kolektiva.social/@LevZadov/110626437687651518
Heretical_i
•Davva
•https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/are-you-an-anarchist/rewards#start
@dogsectionpress are making #Graeber's essay into a pamphlet
Janis
•This particular author is making a living, possibly more, on the outrage of the moment, your outrage.
Please, dig into philosophy and economics. Let your anger fuel you to learn as much as you can.
I'm NOT saying there's no reason to be outraged. There's plenty, but effectiveness means bringing a gun to a gunfight.
About Adam Smith — Adam Smith Institute
Adam Smith InstituteRD
•>>Please, dig into philosophy and economics.<<
Please dig into the whole thread, it's full of great references on both.
Janis
•It's deeply disturbing that what's aguably our primary system isn't working for so very many people, or the planet. That our primary education systems can't escape it makes for chaos. I'm not smithian, but I do think whatever humans do can be assessed as a system, and that we need smarter a one.
Andy Mouse
•@blair_fix
RD
•cpm
•read Locke (in depth)
and said:
"this is just bullshit"
but it makes the assholes happy
so you are a suck up asshole pos
@blair_fix @SallyStrange
cy
•If you believe that a state is neccessarily an oppressive regime, then you can never form an egalitarian state, leaving you easy pickings for authoritarians.
RD
•No, that's not what a state is. Did you read the linked article?
https://www.thecommoner.org.uk/the-state-our-ancient-enemy/
btw, there are a couple other essays that go along with that one:
Coercion: Fundamental to the Modern State
https://www.thecommoner.org.uk/coercion-fundamental-to-the-modern-state/
Ideology: Coercion's Spin Doctor
https://www.thecommoner.org.uk/ideology-coercions-spin-doctor/
Ideology: Coercion's Spin Doctor
Samuel Clarke (The Commoner)cy
•What's that? Stop doubling the size of the police force? Don't be silly. The state is not a state. It's a social contract of mutual benefit, agreed upon by our forefathers. No coercion involved!
See how they can twist your rhetoric? Don't oppose "the state." Oppose the problem. Oppose tyranny, bureaucracy, rent and debt.
HeavenlyPossum
•RD
•Opposing those things puts one in direct opposition to state 🤷♂️ I'm not going to beat around the bush about it.
I'm not going to stop using the word capitalism because incoherent ancaps like to misuse the word, ascribing nonsense definitions to it and fantasizing about capitalism without state.
I'm not going to stop explaining to liberals that there is no "social contract", police should be abolished, and our forefathers were patriarchal, genocidal, slave-owning, white supremacist greedy elites pulling this shit out of their asses and writing it down to solidify their power and justify their privilege and all their crimes against humanity.
I suggest you explore further the entire thread which the post you replied to came from, there are tons of empirical references in their to counter any rhetorical attacks.
cy
•RD
•>>Very similar things to your states exist though, that people are easily misled to think are bad too, undermining your goals.<<
I don't think this is really a thing, or at least not a significant concern. Do you have any examples of this?
Of course if any of these things you're referring to really *are* similar to states (with strict hierarchy, elites, coercion, enclosure, exploitation, control, etc) then they *are* bad things.
cy
•HeavenlyPossum
•RD
•Also, the post office is not anything remotely similar to a state. Those who gutted it weren't trying to eliminate a state-like structure, they just want that structure to be privatized.
HeavenlyPossum
•RD
•China's ancient water pipe networks show they were a communal effort with no evidence of a centralized state authority
https://phys.org/news/2023-08-china-ancient-pipe-networks-communal.html
China's ancient water pipe networks show they were a communal effort with no evidence of a centralized state authority
Science X (Phys.org)HeavenlyPossum
•cy
•HeavenlyPossum
•Free people *could* run it, sure.
cy
•HeavenlyPossum
•There are many services the state has co-opted, but that doesn’t mean they’re somehow integral to the state. We could get rid of the state and still cooperate to send each other letters in the mail.
The sort of rhetoric you’ve expressed concern about is hardly anti-state. Right-wing discourse is often deeply hostile to the idea of the state doing anything that could empower the weak, but that’s not the same as being *anti-state.* Someone like Trump might want to defund the USPS for his own purposes and use rhetoric about small government and low taxes, but he’s not about to abolish, say, the cops—an institution that’s actually integral to the state.
HeavenlyPossum
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