So let’s do some maths:
Israel’s military estimates that out of the 13,000 or so Palestinians it has killed in seven weeks, 1,000 - 2,000 of them are Hamas fighters.
They estimate about 30,000 Hamas fighters in total and their stated goal is to wipe out Hamas entirely.
Given the current ratio of deaths, how many Palestinians will they have to kill to wipe out Hamas?
Answer: 195,000 - 390,000
(But don’t call it genocide.)
Figures: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/26/idf-messaging-suggests-gaza-truce-unlikely-to-last-much-beyond-tuesday
#israel #palestine #gaza #genocide
Israel’s military estimates that out of the 13,000 or so Palestinians it has killed in seven weeks, 1,000 - 2,000 of them are Hamas fighters.
They estimate about 30,000 Hamas fighters in total and their stated goal is to wipe out Hamas entirely.
Given the current ratio of deaths, how many Palestinians will they have to kill to wipe out Hamas?
Answer: 195,000 - 390,000
(But don’t call it genocide.)
Figures: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/26/idf-messaging-suggests-gaza-truce-unlikely-to-last-much-beyond-tuesday
#israel #palestine #gaza #genocide
IDF messaging suggests Gaza truce unlikely to last much beyond Tuesday
Many expect pause to be extended if more hostages are released, but experts predict military campaign could run into next yearDan Sabbagh (The Guardian)
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•Desikner
•anilmc
•Ostrzeżenie o treści: Gaza
With the mowing the lawn, calorific control and expulsion policies, a process akin to overfishing is what has already youthanised Gaza's population, obviously heightened now.
Expect the next dehumanisation/deflection narrative to be morally undermining Hamas with a 'uses child soldiers' narrative (a la arabic meinkampf) when the ratio of child deaths to militants increases again.
Dror Bedrack
•Chris Ferdinandi ⚓️
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Bl4ckst4r
•Gaza has become the hell on earth, every call for a ceasefire is completly sound, and still it isn't a genocide, there has been genocidal remarks from within the current goverment of Israel, but is an extreme and condemned positions inside of the israelian society. Genocide "can" be defined by numbers like you hinted at at your extrapolition of potential victims, but these victims aren't by intend. Who his clear in it's genocidal intend are Hamas and the iranian Regime and its telling that almost no one on the left is attributing this term towards them... in a post Holocoust world we need to be careful about these terms, even or especially in the realm of superfast socialmedia discourse, simply to much is at stacke.
(and please don't attribute the term "apartheid" towards Israel as well, leave it for the southafricans (background here: https://africansforpeace.com/reclaiming-word-apartheid/). To describe the ongoing tragedy of the palestinian people we can use better terms and we can find them, even when there are less flashy.)
We might agree that violence and therefore war needs it's flashiness of terms, while peace can only be laid in nuance.
Aral Balkan
•https://www.democracynow.org/2023/10/16/raz_segal_textbook_case_of_genocide
“A Textbook Case of Genocide”: Israeli Holocaust Scholar Raz Segal Decries Israel’s Assault on Gaza
Democracy Now!Ugly Bag of Mostly Waterudostępnił to.
Candy
•GreenerFutures
•MiKlo:~/citizen4.eu$💙💛
Lock ~2million people in a walled area of ~400km2 for a dozen years and keep the place on the brink of economic existence. So that after some time the majority (especially the young people born there) will not know any other life. And you have a ready recipe for "breeding" any extremism in such a community.
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Raulmatematica23
•Los sionistas tienen la virtud de eliminar la fé y matar a Dios. Algo con lo que Niche probablemente soño.
Mitex Leo :verified_bv:
•Ray ☭
•I feel like every week for years I saw headlines about some Taliban or Al-Qaeda general being killed by U.S. forces and that accomplished jack shit.
Now people are using similar justifications for the killing of Palestinian civilians under the assumption the ends justify the means. They don’t.
~yassin
•John Mastodon
•RodneyPetersonTalentAgency
•They were already living in forced squalor with a population density equal to New York City and a 50% unemployment rate with no way out.
If you think they were pissed off before, the survivors are really pissed off now. With good reason. And millions of their Arab brethren are going to feel the same.
Aral Balkan
•RodneyPetersonTalentAgency
•It appears as if Apple or the Gotham Awards edited that part out of the teleprompter.
He went back and gave the speech anyway after about a minute from his notes.
That’s the kind of unabashed public bravery it’s going to take to stop the fascist movement that could in fact make these bloodbaths common and bring about World War III, if that hasn’t happened already.
Natasha
•TransitBiker
•oatmeal
•“Let’s say there was a terrorist cell in Maryland. Would the response be to then completely bomb the civilian population because they’re hiding in a house somewhere?”
https://theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/27/white-house-hunger-strike-gaza-cynthia-nixon
Looking at what she says to Biden personally, as the comforter-in-chief who turned out to be as compassionate as his sociopathic predecessor when it comes to Muslim children, I think Biden is going to go down in history just like Trump and Bush did. He completely lost the plot on this issue.
Activists calling for Gaza ceasefire begin hunger strike outside White House
Robert Tait (The Guardian)MiKlo:~/citizen4.eu$💙💛
And by the way, let's not forget the famous Israeli terrorists who later ruled the country.
And then some even got the Nobel Peace Prize (sic!).
Like Menachem Begin.
BrokenNeuron
•It's entirely possible that Israel kills hundreds of thousands, and Hamas only grows larger.
HeavenlyPossum
•“Don’t murder kids” isn’t propaganda for Hamas, it’s a bedrock moral principle.
HeavenlyPossum
•Fuck you and fuck your whataboutism. Don’t murder kids, period, anywhere, ever.
https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/111207254166566581
HeavenlyPossum
•Click the link you fool
Aral Balkan
•Aral Balkan
•Shoo! Go away now.