Jaw-dropping. Mind-bending

While the leaders of Hamas live a comfortable life in luxury in Qatar.

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Hamas can just... surrender? Or at least acknowledge Israel and Jews right to exist? But they care about Palestinian lives even less than the Israeli government.

wild that they’ve killed 13x the number of civilians Hamas did and genocide-apologists are still crying self-defense.

yes please don't call it "genocide".

Gaza has become the hell on earth, every call for a ceasefire is completly sound, and still it isn't a genocide, there has been genocidal remarks from within the current goverment of Israel, but is an extreme and condemned positions inside of the israelian society. Genocide "can" be defined by numbers like you hinted at at your extrapolition of potential victims, but these victims aren't by intend. Who his clear in it's genocidal intend are Hamas and the iranian Regime and its telling that almost no one on the left is attributing this term towards them... in a post Holocoust world we need to be careful about these terms, even or especially in the realm of superfast socialmedia discourse, simply to much is at stacke.

(and please don't attribute the term "apartheid" towards Israel as well, leave it for the southafricans (background here: https://africansforpeace.com/reclaiming-word-apartheid/). To describe the ongoing tragedy of the palestinian people we can use better terms and we can find them, even when there are less flashy.)

We might agree that violence and therefore war needs it's flashiness of terms, while peace can only be laid in nuance.

13000 dead and they are still calling it self defence.

and every new orphan, widow, widower, traumatised by their loss, becomes a potential new recruit. It’s been widely accepted that Hamas can’t be eradicated as a movement and its leadership are in safe haven. Whatever the circumstances on the ground, at some point there has to be an accommodation between the parties; unless of course both are utterly determined to see a ‘final solution’ delivered through violence where deaths will be what they’ll be. Which won’t work.

Permítame agregar a ese cálculo el siguiente: Si por cada niño palestino asesinado el dios de Israel pierde 10 o más creyentes al final del genocidio el dios de Israel habrá perdido millones de creyentes y dudo que dios avergonzado pueda creer en Israel.
Los sionistas tienen la virtud de eliminar la fé y matar a Dios. Algo con lo que Niche probablemente soño.

Don't call it genocide 🖤

Astounding that after so many years of American military occupation in the Middle East that people somehow still think “kill ‘em all” is a viable option for fighting terror.

I feel like every week for years I saw headlines about some Taliban or Al-Qaeda general being killed by U.S. forces and that accomplished jack shit.

Now people are using similar justifications for the killing of Palestinian civilians under the assumption the ends justify the means. They don’t.

And they will also have to destroy 500% of all buildings in Gaza.

even worse, if it's 2000 terrorists, by killing 5000 children, it means that for every terrorist, 2.5 children die. That's like if every terrorist went out to fight holding hands with 2 kids, and the IDF killed them both before shooting the terrorist. It's only fair to call both sides terrorists at this point! #boycottisrael #BoycottIsraelApartheid

The death toll eventually will be well over half a million. Counting all the health issues from breathing in all that crap, the broken bones, the starvation, exposure to the elements.

They were already living in forced squalor with a population density equal to New York City and a 50% unemployment rate with no way out.

If you think they were pissed off before, the survivors are really pissed off now. With good reason. And millions of their Arab brethren are going to feel the same.

And I’m guessing that the more Palestinians that are killed the more some of those remaining will wish to join Hamas…

wackjobs.

Cynthia Nixon:

“Let’s say there was a terrorist cell in Maryland. Would the response be to then completely bomb the civilian population because they’re hiding in a house somewhere?”

https://theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/27/white-house-hunger-strike-gaza-cynthia-nixon

Looking at what she says to Biden personally, as the comforter-in-chief who turned out to be as compassionate as his sociopathic predecessor when it comes to Muslim children, I think Biden is going to go down in history just like Trump and Bush did. He completely lost the plot on this issue.

Let's not forget that civilians will be radicalised by the violence, likely boosting Hamas membership.

It's entirely possible that Israel kills hundreds of thousands, and Hamas only grows larger.

@ohiorob

“Don’t murder kids” isn’t propaganda for Hamas, it’s a bedrock moral principle.

@ohiorob

Fuck you and fuck your whataboutism. Don’t murder kids, period, anywhere, ever.

https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/111207254166566581

@ohiorob
Click the link you fool

@raetherepublik Wow, you should get bent.

Better to first do some critical thinking…
—consider the source & how credible it is.
—look up the definition of #genocide
—research/fact check before regurgitating dis/misinformation.

My point was that Hamas isn’t exactly a trustworthy source -especially since a high body count, benefits the death cult.

The rest you can easily look up, but here ya go…
https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/palestine-population

I agree Netanyahu & his RW collation need to go (hopefully sooner rather than later), but seems too many are morally & factually misguided and confused. #Oct7massacre revealed that Leftists have been duped into believing that the victims of genocide, ethnic cleansing & imperialism ie the actual underdogs are the colonizers, oppressors & even Nazis. The West has been poisoned & divided against its own interests & values by autocratic elites.

Since @aral blocked me, do you mind please sending screenshot of his reply? Imo it’s the height of cowardice, but curious none the less… thanks!